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it will be repeated at 1:15pm today( about 3 hours from now) on the sky news channel, if you have or can get access to pay tv.. .
great show, btw, makes the 'tower org look like a bunch of evil prats.
Blissisignorance,
Putfile.com accepts video files up to 10 Mb. Hope your husband's able to upload it.
Also, perhaps some with web sites might also like to host it, though on the downside, it would consume a lot of bandwidth.
Edited to add:
Just found Savefile File Hosting, which allows files up to 60Mb!
Hope this helps.
if someone feels attracted to the jws to the point of beginning a bible study with them what sort of advice,if any, would you give them at this early stage before she/he gets hopelessly mind conditioned and entangled in their nets?
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i would base my response on the principle that one should first carefully check out the way they (the wts)treat their followers before getting intimately involved with them.
"If you embrace an organised religion without knowing its history, a stranger is claiming your faith." - Unknown
ok, lets say you were born attached at the shoulder of your twin.
your mom raises yer sorry arse as a dub and you both grow up knockin on doors together..........then you turn into an apostate heathen bastard.
how does the witness one go to the meetings and out in service....and how do you the poor apostate bastard go to apostafests and stuff?
Gumby,
Would the dub twin have to sit in on the judicial meeting when the apostate twin is being reproved?
But if the dub twin was an elder, he could then sit on his brother's jc.
But would the rest of the body (of elders!) allow the elder twin into elders' meetings??
well, the elders were supposed to have met on monday, april 18 to decide if they would disfellowship me for adultery.
there is no question of my guilt.
not a hard decision.
Seeker4,
Yes, please. I'd be very interested.
Thanks.
who here had ever heard of this so-called 'doctrine' of "theocratic warfare" when you were a jehovah's witness?
who has not heard of the so-called doctrine now that you are an apostate?
so why have witnesses never heard of 'doctrine', yet apostates seem to promote it as the last word on witness standards of honesty, integrity and decency?
Slim,
Do Jehovah's Witnesses now believe that all non-Witnesses will die at Armageddon? This is not clear. Since the goats change in 1995, Witnesses have promoted strongly the idea that Jesus will make the final judgement and that Witnesses cannot be sure who will be saved and who will not.
I've no doubt you are sincere in your attempts to defend WT. But in the early 1990s WT had a problem. Lots of 'worldly' people, especially in newly-'democratic' Eastern Europe, got very upset when JWs 'preached' they're all going to die unless they become a JW. Especially when these 'worldly' people were politicians responsible for registering new religions. So this hard-line doctrine started hurting them, both politically, and potentially, financially, in Russia, Greece, Georgia, Turkmenistan, Bulgaria, and not forgetting France (to save $28 million, virtually any doctrine becomes 'negotiable').
On the other hand, if WT stopped saying only JWs will survive Armageddon, then many JWs would wonder why should they bother being a JW. Which is a not unreasonable question.
So WT had to 'soften' their public position, while still keeping JWs fearful thrall that they may not survive themselves. Thus the changes you described.
i was a jw for 40 years.
although as an individual/cong/body of elders holy spirirt was prayed for, i cannot think of one moment when i thought..right now i have gods spirit acting upon me.
it was never described adequately for me to completely understand and i suspect that others felt the same, yet everyone talked as though they knew exactly how it worked.
First, welcome, Ring Wielder! Glad you've joined us.
Good question. This lack of obvious holy spirit was something that worried me as a JW. Like you, I never ever felt I was being 'filled,' or 'guided' by holy spirit. I cannot recall a single elders meeting where I felt as a body we were being 'guided' by holy spirit--though I sat through far too many where there was the distinct opposite!
The way I rationalised it to myself was that as we were taught that the Bible is a product of holy spirit, so when we followed Biblical advice we were, in effect, following the leading of the holy spirit...
my mother who has been a jw for over 50 yrs, was sent an invatation to an elder's son high school graduation party.
however it was addressed to just her alone not including her husband who is not a witness but a nice guy just no jw.
the elder's son has yet to speak to my mother at the meetings even a hello or a casual conversation.
She thinks this is just request for a $$$ gift
As a matter of interest, what sort of gift is usually considered appropriate, in particular to a good friend?
(This custom is rather alien to us Brits!)
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just thought i would share this, it's good for a laugh, we all know how much charitable work the jw's do, here it is in their own words.
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I don't know if this is helpful:
i'm preparing some information for my wife and kids, and would appreciate if someone was able to post a scan of these pages:
watchtower, august 1, 1926, p. 232
rutherford 'beating his slaves' just because they believed his crap:
German XJW,
I can send you a scan of the 1926 WT page.
Thank you for your kind offer, but I now have it (see Osarsif's earlier post)--it was on Shaun's site, JW Files.
However, I'm still looking for a scan of the Yearbook page:
Instead of its being considered a 'probability,' they read into it that it was a 'certainty,' and some prepared for their own loved ones with expectancy of their resurrection.
Thanks again.
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just thought i would share this, it's good for a laugh, we all know how much charitable work the jw's do, here it is in their own words.
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Could their charity status be challenged on the basis that there is no real "public benefit" in their activities?
